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> <channel><title>Comments on: Review: Watchmen</title> <atom:link href="http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#utm_source=rss&#038;utm_medium=rss&#038;utm_campaign=review-watchmen</link> <description>Your daily dose of retard &#124; Pinoy funny website full of funny articles, funny jokes, funny pictures, funny reviews, and a lot of other funny stuff.</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:59:39 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>By: Nightdreamer</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129640</link> <dc:creator>Nightdreamer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:20:47 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129640</guid> <description>Kinda late in reading this, as I&#039;ve been staying away from Watchmen conversations in the previous week.
RC sez,
&lt;strong&gt;&quot;i have this impression that he is thinking from a perspective of someone looking at watchmen as &#8220;watchmen, the movie&#8221; and not &#8220;watchmen, a graphic novel turned into a movie&#8221;.&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;
I am actually doing that, i.e. looking at Watchmen as a movie. I&#039;m of the belief that a great adaptation movie should be able to stand on its own without inconsistencies and bad acting, and with plot, setting, and characters that the audiences can connect to. There are actually a lot of adaptation movies that succeeded in all those. I&#039;d say some Harry Potter did well. And Godfather is just brilliant I&#039;m not sure people speak of the book as often as they do of the film.
&lt;strong&gt;&#8216;an &#8220;unfilmable&#8221; comic book was filmed, and the result is largely faithful to the source material.&#8217;
and that&#8217;s the feat that matters on this movie. it has flaws movie-making wise, but it is expected if you attempt to concretize a source material such as this.&lt;/strong&gt;
I dunno, I think it&#039;s being cut too much slack. I just can&#039;t help but wonder that, had Zack Snyder released Watchmen with all the special effects unaltered, but before the geek/fanboy generation (of which I think I also belong to) came to be and before the internet became available for mass consumption, would anyone have cared?
And while I consider myself a hardcore geek, I don&#039;t really think I need Hollywood to give shout-outs to our kinds, so I don&#039;t really think Watchmen is lucky to have a fanboy like Snyder making the film. I would&#039;ve preferred it to stay film-less.
If you can, try to read my &lt;a href=&quot;http://nightdreamer.i.ph/blogs/nightdreamer/2009/03/08/311/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;review of the movie&lt;/a&gt;, though you probably can already predict that it&#039;s not a very positive review.
I&#039;m also in the very slim minority who think that the squid-alternative wasn&#039;t very compelling. Yeah, I can understand not using the squid, but I thought using the, well, you know what they used, sort of defeated the purpose of the movie a little bit. I&#039;d explain this, except someone from this &lt;a href=&quot;http://danbirlew.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=687&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;forum&lt;/a&gt; had already written similar thoughts on it. So I&#039;ll just quote him:
&quot;I take issue with them changing the explanation for the catastrophe at the end. I believe IIRC the comics, Ozy made the climactic attacks look like the work of invading aliens. And that element in the comics worked well because it tied into something Reagan said previously about how mankind would drop its petty bickering and work together if attacked by an unknown force from outside our world, making the concept very timely. By changing everything to look like Dr. Manhattan did it, I feel that they&#039;ve almost justified the nature of the Cold War: In the Cold War, everyone behaved out of fear of the nuclear bogeyman. And now that it looks like Dr. Manhattan attacked the world, humans must now coexist peacefully out of fear of the superhero bogeyman. One bogeyman has replaced another, and by agreeing with the situation the Watchmen may in fact be advocating the principles of the Cold War. I find the change a bit too significant.&quot;
I also thought that since the general population already hated &quot;superheroes&quot; since the beginning of the movie, making the catastrophe look like it was caused by Dr. Mahattan changes nothing because people will just hate &quot;superheroes&quot; even more. One can argue that from the comic book, people would realize that the Squid threat could&#039;ve been thwarted had they not outlawed costumed vigilantes. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kinda late in reading this, as I&#039;ve been staying away from Watchmen conversations in the previous week.</p><p>RC sez,</p><p><strong>&quot;i have this impression that he is thinking from a perspective of someone looking at watchmen as &ldquo;watchmen, the movie&rdquo; and not &ldquo;watchmen, a graphic novel turned into a movie&rdquo;.&quot;</strong></p><p>I am actually doing that, i.e. looking at Watchmen as a movie. I&#039;m of the belief that a great adaptation movie should be able to stand on its own without inconsistencies and bad acting, and with plot, setting, and characters that the audiences can connect to. There are actually a lot of adaptation movies that succeeded in all those. I&#039;d say some Harry Potter did well. And Godfather is just brilliant I&#039;m not sure people speak of the book as often as they do of the film.</p><p><strong>&lsquo;an &ldquo;unfilmable&rdquo; comic book was filmed, and the result is largely faithful to the source material.&rsquo;</p><p>and that&rsquo;s the feat that matters on this movie. it has flaws movie-making wise, but it is expected if you attempt to concretize a source material such as this.</strong></p><p>I dunno, I think it&#039;s being cut too much slack. I just can&#039;t help but wonder that, had Zack Snyder released Watchmen with all the special effects unaltered, but before the geek/fanboy generation (of which I think I also belong to) came to be and before the internet became available for mass consumption, would anyone have cared?</p><p>And while I consider myself a hardcore geek, I don&#039;t really think I need Hollywood to give shout-outs to our kinds, so I don&#039;t really think Watchmen is lucky to have a fanboy like Snyder making the film. I would&#039;ve preferred it to stay film-less.</p><p>If you can, try to read my <a href="http://nightdreamer.i.ph/blogs/nightdreamer/2009/03/08/311/" rel="nofollow">review of the movie</a>, though you probably can already predict that it&#039;s not a very positive review.</p><p>I&#039;m also in the very slim minority who think that the squid-alternative wasn&#039;t very compelling. Yeah, I can understand not using the squid, but I thought using the, well, you know what they used, sort of defeated the purpose of the movie a little bit. I&#039;d explain this, except someone from this <a href="http://danbirlew.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=687" rel="nofollow">forum</a> had already written similar thoughts on it. So I&#039;ll just quote him:</p><p>&quot;I take issue with them changing the explanation for the catastrophe at the end. I believe IIRC the comics, Ozy made the climactic attacks look like the work of invading aliens. And that element in the comics worked well because it tied into something Reagan said previously about how mankind would drop its petty bickering and work together if attacked by an unknown force from outside our world, making the concept very timely. By changing everything to look like Dr. Manhattan did it, I feel that they&#039;ve almost justified the nature of the Cold War: In the Cold War, everyone behaved out of fear of the nuclear bogeyman. And now that it looks like Dr. Manhattan attacked the world, humans must now coexist peacefully out of fear of the superhero bogeyman. One bogeyman has replaced another, and by agreeing with the situation the Watchmen may in fact be advocating the principles of the Cold War. I find the change a bit too significant.&quot;</p><p>I also thought that since the general population already hated &quot;superheroes&quot; since the beginning of the movie, making the catastrophe look like it was caused by Dr. Mahattan changes nothing because people will just hate &quot;superheroes&quot; even more. One can argue that from the comic book, people would realize that the Squid threat could&#039;ve been thwarted had they not outlawed costumed vigilantes.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ade</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129579</link> <dc:creator>Ade</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:18:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129579</guid> <description>Heck, I laughed out loud. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heck, I laughed out loud.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sky High</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129578</link> <dc:creator>Sky High</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 11:19:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129578</guid> <description>Man, I won&#039;t even listen to Jeff Buckley&#039;s Hallelujah version the same way also. I can&#039;t explain if they ruined it or not, but I was literally smiling when it used as score for that sex scene. Maybe I&#039;m sick in the brain. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man, I won&#039;t even listen to Jeff Buckley&#039;s Hallelujah version the same way also. I can&#039;t explain if they ruined it or not, but I was literally smiling when it used as score for that sex scene. Maybe I&#039;m sick in the brain.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: coffee</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129574</link> <dc:creator>coffee</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:56:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129574</guid> <description>Rorschach was an especially well developed as a character; i hope the actor that played his role is nominated for some kind of an award (when that season comes around again) </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rorschach was an especially well developed as a character; i hope the actor that played his role is nominated for some kind of an award (when that season comes around again)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ade</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129573</link> <dc:creator>Ade</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 01:28:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129573</guid> <description>Exactly. Watchmen is lucky to have a fanboy like Snyder making the film, although I wonder how Darren Aronofsky could have made it. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. Watchmen is lucky to have a fanboy like Snyder making the film, although I wonder how Darren Aronofsky could have made it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: RC</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129569</link> <dc:creator>RC</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 09:56:37 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129569</guid> <description>yeah, i was expecting to see the giant squid too because of the way it was presented in the comics-- freaking visually intriguing. but yes, the alternative worked fine.
also, just want to say something while reading nightdreamer&#039;s comments. i have this impression that he is thinking from a perspective of someone looking at watchmen as &quot;watchmen, the movie&quot; and not &quot;watchmen, a graphic novel turned into a movie&quot;. i liked the movie because as you said,
&#039;an &#8220;unfilmable&#8221; comic book was filmed, and the result is largely faithful to the source material.&#039;
and that&#039;s the feat that matters on this movie. it has flaws movie-making wise, but it is expected if you attempt to concretize a source material such as this. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, i was expecting to see the giant squid too because of the way it was presented in the comics&#8211; freaking visually intriguing. but yes, the alternative worked fine.</p><p>also, just want to say something while reading nightdreamer&#039;s comments. i have this impression that he is thinking from a perspective of someone looking at watchmen as &quot;watchmen, the movie&quot; and not &quot;watchmen, a graphic novel turned into a movie&quot;. i liked the movie because as you said,</p><p>&#039;an &ldquo;unfilmable&rdquo; comic book was filmed, and the result is largely faithful to the source material.&#039;</p><p>and that&#039;s the feat that matters on this movie. it has flaws movie-making wise, but it is expected if you attempt to concretize a source material such as this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ade</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129556</link> <dc:creator>Ade</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:01:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129556</guid> <description>IKR. I want my gigantic vagina psychic alien squid. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IKR. I want my gigantic vagina psychic alien squid.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: krystal</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129555</link> <dc:creator>krystal</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 12:55:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129555</guid> <description>oh crap...no giant robot squid? i was looking forward to that.
i&#039;ll watch it later, after work.
i guess i&#039;ll just have to settle for etits y betlogs de azul </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh crap&#8230;no giant robot squid? i was looking forward to that.</p><p>i&#039;ll watch it later, after work.</p><p>i guess i&#039;ll just have to settle for etits y betlogs de azul</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Ade</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129551</link> <dc:creator>Ade</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 01:18:03 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129551</guid> <description>I am going to sound like a Watchmen apologist here, but I honestly loved the movie. The graphic novel wasn&#039;t made as a character study. It was a deconstruction of the various superhero archetypes.
I do admit that the movie could be better, but I&#039;m just happy that a movie was made out of that dense multi-layered graphic novel and that Hollywood didn&#039;t shit on Watchmen. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am going to sound like a Watchmen apologist here, but I honestly loved the movie. The graphic novel wasn&#039;t made as a character study. It was a deconstruction of the various superhero archetypes.</p><p>I do admit that the movie could be better, but I&#039;m just happy that a movie was made out of that dense multi-layered graphic novel and that Hollywood didn&#039;t shit on Watchmen.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Will</title><link>http://blog.ademagnaye.com/2009/03/06/review-watchmen/#comment-129544</link> <dc:creator>Will</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:25:08 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://blog.ademagnaye.com/?p=1626#comment-129544</guid> <description>Spot on Nightdreamer!I havent&#039; heard of the graphic novel so I watched this movie with zero expectations (and background knowledge).  As you say, I found it hard to attach to any of the characters.  Toward the end i was hoping they all died because the movie was taking too long and I needed to pee! </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Nightdreamer!I havent&#039; heard of the graphic novel so I watched this movie with zero expectations (and background knowledge).  As you say, I found it hard to attach to any of the characters.  Toward the end i was hoping they all died because the movie was taking too long and I needed to pee!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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